Red Sox & Brewers

Submitted by: PixiesPhan100

Red Sox

NameAgeLevelP1P2AvailabilityYearsAFVSalarySurplusLowMedianHigh
Willy Adames26MajorsSSLow264.32341.333.141.349.6
Brandon Woodruff29MajorsSPVery low265.327.537.830.337.845.4
Christian Yelich30MajorsOFVery low736.1162.5-126.4-151.7-126.4-101.1
Cash35

Total Value:

-12.3

Brewers

NameAgeLevelP1P2AvailabilityYearsAFVSalarySurplusLowMedianHigh
Chris Sale33MajorsSPMedium320.247.6-27.4-32.9-27.4-21.9
Alex Verdugo26MajorsOFLow29.56.92.62.12.63.1
Nick YorkeMinors2B12.19.712.114.5

Total Value:

-12.7

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PixiesPhan100

There are ways to solve the SS Problem beyond just signing one of the big 4

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Yes there is

jmont1

Brewers say no thanks. Sale hasn't pitched 50 innings in the last 3 years combined. His contract and the money going with this proposal would reduce Yelich's salary to an easily affordable $8.5M per year. Yorke is a poor replacement for Adames. This is an easy no for Milwaukee. The money they save isn't nearly enough to justify throwing away Woodruff and Adames.

jmont1

Pixies: you're right, i screwed it up. I included Sales' vesting option which in retrospect looks like an impossibility now. Here's the way it should be: Yelich 26M through 2028 (26 X 6 = 156) plus 2029 buyout of 6.5 = 162.5. Sale owed $55M 162.5 minus 55 = 107.5 minus the 35 in the trade = 72.5...72.5 divided by 6 = $12.1.....For the Brewers still affordable, just not easily for them.

PixiesPhan100

I think we're close enough on the money to frame a real discussion. The problem the Brewers have is that they only have their big core of Burns, Lauer, Woodruff, Adames, Peralta and Telez under control for two more years. After that, they don't have the farm system to immediately retool so there are going to be some fallow years especially if they have an aging LF in his 30s who makes a lot of money and isn't any good. The question that Matt Arnold and his team will have to answer is if you do something about this now by shedding that contract to a big market team and ripping up your core? Or do you try your best to win in the two years you have left with your core under team control? Complicating things is that they are in a division with three teams that probably won't be competitive over the next two years so if you rip up your core now, you might be ceding your best chance to win it all. But if you don't do something you'll be awful in 25 and beyond. It's not a choice I'd envy and probably a big reason why Stearns quit. He won't be the one responsible for whatever choice they make.

PixiesPhan100

My mistake Peralta is under control through 26 but the point remains the same. They've got two years left with their core under team control and they have to think about what the team looks like beyond that point.

PixiesPhan100

Jmont I think your math is wrong here: Yelich is owed 188.5 at 26*7 + 6.5M buyout Sale is owed 55 total over the next two years 188-55-30 = 103.5 103.5/7 = 14.79 not 8.5. Besides for some of those years Yelich will likely be a zero, Sale will likely have some value over the next two years. But you're right, Brewers fans would hate giving up two of their best players for basically nothing to shed Yelich and I get that. Though I argue that this is something they need to think about. Their entire core of Burns, Woodruff, Adames, Lauer, and Peralta is going to be free in two years and they have this albatross of a contract taking up 20% of their payroll for a guy who in a few years might not even be playing. If they shed this contract, they'll be able to lock up Burns and they'll have some good prospects coming in two years. That contract really holds them back and clearing it along with the $20M or so that Adames and Woodruff are going to make next year would really help them reset for 2025. The next couple of years would suck though especially when the division they are in, isn't that good.

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